{"id":1268,"date":"2011-05-30T09:33:09","date_gmt":"2011-05-30T14:33:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/?p=1268"},"modified":"2016-05-31T09:39:09","modified_gmt":"2016-05-31T14:39:09","slug":"playing-the-numbers-game","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.smmcroberts.net\/blog\/playing-the-numbers-game\/","title":{"rendered":"Playing the Numbers Game"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin-right: 5px;\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/jwb_numbers_game.png?resize=300%2C300\" alt=\"Playing the Numbers Game\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" align=\"left\" \/>These days, Witnesses are quick to point out that they are eight&nbsp;million people strong. We&#8217;ve seen it in several comments they&#8217;ve posted. The implication being that eight million people can&#8217;t be wrong. It&#8217;s the same argument Elvis fans have used for years.<br \/>\nBut let&#8217;s put it in perspective. There are currently nearly <a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldometers.info\/world-population\/\">seven and a half billion people in the world<\/a>. That makes Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses just about one in a thousand. Can one in a thousand people be wrong? Of course. Put it another way: In an auditorium filled with a thousand people, what are the odds that 999 of them are wrong and only one of them is right?<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/rejecting_truth.png?w=500\" alt=\"rejecting_truth\"  \/><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s <em>possible<\/em>, but hardly a positive convincing argument in favor of the minority opinion.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s worse than that. Since Armageddon is &#8220;any day now&#8221; (and has been for a long time), and since the Watchtower holds that everyone will get a chance to have &#8220;the truth&#8221; explained to them before Jesus&#8217; army murders them for their willful unbelief, it means that 999 of them have had the truth explained to them and have willfully rejected it in favor of living a lie, knowing full well the life-and-death consequences of that decision!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Truth can never be told so as to be understood, and not be believed.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; William Blake<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I agree with Blake. When I understand the truth about something I automatically believe it. I really have no choice in the matter; &#8220;understanding something as true&#8221; and &#8220;believing something&#8221; are virtually synonymous. The fact that the vast majority of people don&#8217;t believe the Watchtower religion after understanding it means that they are not convinced that it is true: not that they have &#8220;rejected the truth in favor of the lie.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Arguing that something is true just because a number of people believe it to be true is a logical fallacy. It even has a fancy Latin name: <em>argumentum ad populum<\/em> (&#8220;appeal to the people&#8221;) and is well explained in <a title=\"Wikipedia: Argumentum ad populum\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Argumentum_ad_populum\" target=\"_blank\">this article on Wikipedia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s even more foolish to play this particular numbers game when you are a minority group. If the number of people espousing a religion were an indicator of its truthfulness, then you&#8217;d be wiser to cast your lot with the Catholics who outnumber the Witnesses 175 to one.<br \/>\nNow, as soon as we point out these facts, a Witness will forget about what they just said [hoping we will too] and immediately change tactics and tell us about how narrow is the way, and how <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-1272\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/blow_raspberries.jpg?resize=67%2C35\" alt=\"blow_raspberries\" width=\"67\" height=\"35\" \/>&#8220;many are called but few are chosen&#8221; and all the other arguments they can come up with to prove the opposite point: that the true religion will have few adherents. Blowing raspberries is an appropriate response to this.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Playing with other numbers<\/strong><br \/>\nNumbers play a surprisingly large role in the Watchtower&#8217;s doctrine and history. But it&#8217;s all terribly boring. So I thought up this little rhyme to help keep it all straight and in Watchtower perspective:<\/p>\n<p><em>One<\/em>: &#8220;godly org&#8221; on planet Earth.<br \/>\n<em> 1914<\/em>: their everLASTing DAYS begin.<br \/>\n<em> 1919<\/em>: they show their &#8220;worth.&#8221;<br \/>\n<em> 1945<\/em>: saving lives becomes a sin.<\/p>\n<p><em>Two<\/em>: the witnesses in Revelation.<br \/>\n<em> Millions<\/em>: living who will &#8220;never die.&#8221;<br \/>\n<em> Myriads<\/em>: former members whom they shun.<br \/>\n<em> Countless<\/em>: each deception and each lie.<\/p>\n<p><em>3 1\/2<\/em>: their time in prison.<br \/>\n<em>Six-thousand<\/em>: years man&#8217;s been around<br \/>\n<em> 607<\/em>: their tunnel-vision.<br \/>\n<em> One-thousand<\/em>: years that Satan&#8217;s bound.<\/p>\n<p>For godly perfection the number <em>seven<\/em><br \/>\nsimply cannot be compared.<br \/>\n<em> 12<\/em> is organization, and for heaven:<br \/>\n<em>A thousand times that number squared!<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Eight-million<\/em>: doing Watchtower&#8217;s will.<br \/>\n<em> 666<\/em>: that bad boy of the night.<br \/>\n<em> Seven-billion<\/em>: non-believers God will kill.<br \/>\n<em> Zero<\/em>: total times that they&#8217;ve been right.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/smmcroberts.net\/logpage.php?l='Blog:NumbersGame'\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>These days, Witnesses are quick to point out that they are eight&nbsp;million people strong. We&#8217;ve seen it in several comments they&#8217;ve posted. The implication being that eight million people can&#8217;t be wrong. It&#8217;s the same argument Elvis fans have used for years. But let&#8217;s put it in perspective. There are currently nearly seven and a &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smmcroberts.net\/blog\/playing-the-numbers-game\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Playing the Numbers Game&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1268","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3vZ6t-ks","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2302,"url":"https:\/\/www.smmcroberts.net\/blog\/the-post-armageddon-blues\/","url_meta":{"origin":1268,"position":0},"title":"The Post-Armageddon Blues","author":"smmcroberts","date":"November 15, 2015","format":false,"excerpt":"In Part I we looked at just how likely the Watchtower's scenario is for Armageddon. 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