{"id":1927,"date":"2012-05-01T13:36:06","date_gmt":"2012-05-01T18:36:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/?p=1927"},"modified":"2016-05-29T17:19:13","modified_gmt":"2016-05-29T22:19:13","slug":"bible-prophecy-the-jesus-years-part-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.smmcroberts.net\/blog\/bible-prophecy-the-jesus-years-part-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Bible Prophecy: The Jesus Years part II"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-1932\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/JesusYears2.png?resize=300%2C300\" alt=\"JesusYears2\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" \/>In our <a href=\"http:\/\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/bible-prophecy-the-jesus-years-part-i\/\">first part<\/a> in this series we examined the supposed &#8220;virgin birth&#8221; and &#8220;Immanuel&#8221; prophecies. We found that they were not messianic prophecies, but rather comprised a botched &#8220;sign&#8221; attached to a failed prophecy concerning the king of Assyria rescuing the King of Judah from the clutches of Syria and Israel.<\/p>\n<p>We surmised that the writer of Matthew wrote of it as a messianic prophecy due to the word &#8220;maiden&#8221; being mistranslated as &#8220;virgin&#8221; in the Septuagint version he used (we were being kind; the alternative would be to accuse the writer of Matthew of deliberate fraud.) So, yes: at the very start of our investigation we have found a mistake in the supposedly &#8220;inerrant&#8221; Bible.<\/p>\n<p>In this second part we&#8217;re going to begin examining the five &#8220;prophecies&#8221; the Watchtower lists as having been fulfilled by Jesus. This list is from the introduction to their recently<a title=\"New World Translation (2013 ed.) pdf download\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jw.org\/en\/publications\/bible\/nwt\/introduction\/messianic-prophecies\/\" target=\"_blank\"> revised New World Translation<\/a> of the Bible. We will quote them exactly as they appear there. <\/p>\n<p><strong>1. Born in Bethlehem<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Prophecy&#8221;<\/strong><br \/>\n\u201cYou, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, &#8230; from you will come out for me the one to be ruler in Israel.\u201d<br \/>\n&#8212; Micah 5:2<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;Fulfillment&#8221;<\/strong><br \/>\n\u201cAfter Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, look! astrologers from the East came to Jerusalem.\u201d<br \/>\n&#8211;Matthew 2:1<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The ellipsis in the &#8220;prophetic&#8221; quote is important, as is its context. First, here is the quote from Micah in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Micah+5:2\">NIV<\/a> with the missing phrase restored:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So, first of all: the ruler was to be of the <em>clan<\/em> of Bethlehem: not just someone who happened to be born in the <em>town<\/em> of Bethlehem. [The 12 tribes of Israel were further subdivided into clans of a thousand or more people.] There is no evidence that Jesus was of that clan, nor does any Bible writer claim that he was.<\/p>\n<p>Luke tells us that the family&#8217;s hometown was <em>Nazareth<\/em>: <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">not<\/span> Bethlehem (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jw.org\/en\/publications\/bible\/nwt\/books\/luke\/2\/#v42002039\" target=\"_blank\">Luke 2:39<\/a>). In his story, he has the family journey to Bethlehem for the sole purpose of taking part in a census (Luke 2:1-7)&#8211;not that they had any family ties there (especially since they ended up searching in vain for an inn with a vacancy, rather than spending the night with family.)<\/p>\n<p>It wouldn&#8217;t make much sense to hold the census-taking in Bethlehem if it was a small town&#8211;how could it handle the influx of people?&#8211;but it makes more sense if it was just the <em>clan<\/em> of Bethlehem that was small. In fact, Bethlehem <em>the city<\/em> does not seem to be small according to Mt 2:6: &#8220;And you, O Bethlehem of the land of Judah, are by no means the most insignificant city&#8230;'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>We know that the census took place in the second term of Cyrenius (aka <a title=\"Wikipedia article on Quirinius\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Quirinius\" target=\"_blank\">Quirinius<\/a>): between 6-9 CE. Yet the visit of the &#8220;astrologers&#8221; to Herod (when they told him of Bethlehem) would had to have taken place at least eight years earlier&#8211;since <a title=\"Wikipedia article on Herod\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Herod_the_Great\" target=\"_blank\">Herod <\/a>died in 4 BCE! Someone is lying somewhere, and it&#8217;s either Matthew or Luke, or more likely: both.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jehovahswitnessblog.com\/bible\/slaughter-of-your-innocence\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1187\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Mt_Lk_Timeline3.png?resize=521%2C256\" alt=\"Mt_Lk_Timeline\" width=\"521\" height=\"256\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So, having our hero born in Bethlehem does not fulfill a prophecy about the messiah being of the clan of Bethlehem. But, what if it did? Writing at least half a century after the supposed time of Jesus&#8217; death, the writer of Matthew could have written that Jesus had been born anywhere he pleased, to whatever clan he liked, without fear of contradiction. [If he&#8217;d understood Micah, no doubt he would&#8217;ve written that Jesus was of the <em>clan<\/em> of Bethlehem, rather than having him born in the city of Bethlehem.] But there is no record that Jesus was of the clan of Bethlehem or that he was born in Bethlehem or anywhere else.<\/p>\n<p>In addition: Jesus never was a ruler over Israel. So, he did not fulfill any prophecy regarding a &#8220;ruler over Israel.&#8221; (<em>Duh!<\/em>)<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s put it in a non-religious context for a moment. How convinced would you be if I were to show you a prophecy about a future President of the United States being a member of the Native American <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Peoria_Tribe\" target=\"_blank\">Peoria Tribe<\/a>, and then I claimed that Joe Blow fulfilled that prophecy by being born in Peoria, Illinois (though I don&#8217;t have any record of his birthplace, and he has since died <em>and never was President<\/em> of the United States)? Such a statement would make me appear rather foolish&#8211;which is how I now find myself regarding the writer of Matthew: mistaken and foolish.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Just as in the first &#8220;proof-text&#8221; of the supposed prophecies fulfilled by Jesus, this second one has been a complete disappointment, and has just served to reveal still more errors in the Bible.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/bible-prophecy-the-jesus-years-part-iii\/\">Part 3: Dividing the Garments<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/smmcroberts.net\/logpage.php?l='Blog:JesusProhecy2'\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In our first part in this series we examined the supposed &#8220;virgin birth&#8221; and &#8220;Immanuel&#8221; prophecies. We found that they were not messianic prophecies, but rather comprised a botched &#8220;sign&#8221; attached to a failed prophecy concerning the king of Assyria rescuing the King of Judah from the clutches of Syria and Israel. We surmised that &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smmcroberts.net\/blog\/bible-prophecy-the-jesus-years-part-ii\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Bible Prophecy: The Jesus Years part II&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1927","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3vZ6t-v5","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1914,"url":"https:\/\/www.smmcroberts.net\/blog\/bible-prophecy-the-jesus-years-part-i\/","url_meta":{"origin":1927,"position":0},"title":"Bible Prophecy: The Jesus Years Part I","author":"smmcroberts","date":"June 1, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"We received the following comment from a Christian (though not a Jehovah's Witness): \"Just as all the predictions for Jesus\u2019 first coming came true, so will the ones about His second coming.\" I want to examine his statement, because--while I have no doubt that the writer sincerely believes it--I don't\u2026","rel":"","context":"With 1 comment","block_context":{"text":"With 1 comment","link":"https:\/\/www.smmcroberts.net\/blog\/bible-prophecy-the-jesus-years-part-i\/#comments"},"img":{"alt_text":"JesusYears1","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/smmcroberts.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/JesusYears1.png?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":1955,"url":"https:\/\/www.smmcroberts.net\/blog\/bible-prophecy-the-jesus-years-part-v\/","url_meta":{"origin":1927,"position":1},"title":"Bible Prophecy: The Jesus Years part V","author":"smmcroberts","date":"February 1, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"We did a two-for-one deal in our previous episode: the \"no bones broken\" and the \"piercing\" claims. 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