An RCL Exclusive!
A visitor reported finding the following in the trash container outside of Bethel. It appears to be a printer’s proof of a yet-to-be-released revision to the Organization book, with a new set of baptism questions (the infamous “80 questions” that baptismal candidates must answer before a group of elders). It is designated as the Elder’s Administration Guide with Answers. I have faithfully transcribed it here, but I hid the answers under links so that you can take a shot at answering the questions before looking at the answers (some of which may surprise you). Unfortunately, we don’t have the full set of 80. If anyone out there can dig up the missing pages I will publish them here. Otherwise, if you have any suggestions for new questions I’m sure the Society would be glad to have our input, so feel free to post them here.
AnswerAnswer 1. No, it is not. It’s just the name we arbitrarily decided upon while acknowledging that “Yahweh” is the correct name. [At this point try calling the baptismal candidate an arbitrary name such as “Jocko” to see their reaction.]
While inclining to view the pronunciation “Yah.weh” as the more correct way, we have retained the form “Jehovah” because of people’s familiarity with it since the 14th century.
— New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures with References, Revised 1984, p. 23
By combining the vowel signs of ‘Adho.nay and ‘Elo.him’ with the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton the pronunciations Yeho.wah’ and Yehowih’ were formed. The first of these provided the basis for the Latinized form “Jehova(h).” The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270. Hebrew scholars generally favor “Yahweh” as the most likely pronunciation.
–Aid to Bible Understanding, pp. 884, 885.
AnswerAnswer 2. No, it does not. The New World Translation Committee took it upon themselves, as part of being “faithful and discreet”, to add to the Word of God by inserting the name Jehovah into the text in place of Kurios (Lord). The exception to this rule is when Kurios refers to Christ (otherwise Philippians 2:9-11 would unfortunately read “Jesus is Jehovah”, which would be apostasy.)
The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures richly enhances accurate Bible knowledge… the foremost feature of this translation is the restoration of the divine name to its rightful place in the English text. It has been done, using the commonly accepted English form “Jehovah” 6,973 times in the Hebrews Scriptures and 237 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures.
— New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures with References, Revised 1984, p. 6
AnswerAnswer 3. Plagues.
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book
— Revelation 22:18
AnswerAnswer 4. Yes. [If the baptismal candidate expresses wonder about this remind them that it is the Governing Body that decides what is appropriate, not Jesus.]
AnswerAnswer 5. Yes; Divine justice does not follow humane ideas of justice. It is the same principle by which we know Jehovah is about to destroy all those who do not know him.
AnswerAnswer 6. Two of every unclean, and seven of every bird and clean animal. He and his family had 120 years to collect two of every animal, and one week to collect the remaining 5 of every bird and clean animal. [If the baptismal candidate mentions that the distinction between clean and unclean animals was not made until Moses’ time, tell them there must be new light coming which they should trustingly wait for.]
Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
AnswerAnswer 7. Elhanan, the son of Jaare-oregim, of Bethlehem.
And war arose once again with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite got to strike down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like the beam of loom workers.
— 2 Sam. 21:19
[Note that “David” is also an acceptable reply: 1 Sam 17.]
AnswerAnswer 8. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. [If the baptismal candidate wonders why no historian agrees with our date, tell them that ours is based on fulfilled prophecy relating to 1914, and if the date 607 BCE were incorrect then so would the 1914 date.]
AnswerAnswer 9. [Submit all answers to this question to headquarters; we’re still searching for a good one.]
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth
— Matthew 12:40
And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Joseph of Arimathaea… went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
— Mark 15:42, 43:
When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body. Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb… As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed. “Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen!”
— Mark 16:1-6:
[According to the above, Jesus died and was buried late on the day before the Sabbath — that is, on Friday –and rose on the morning after the Sabbath, or on Sunday.]
AnswerAnswer 10. Scarlet.
And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.
— Matthew 27:28
[Purple is also an acceptable answer (see below).]
And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe.
— John 19:2
AnswerAnswer 11. The Scripture refers to a future time period when the “God who does not change” will no longer punish descendants for their ancestor’s sin.
AnswerAnswer 12. Because Paul said so.
AnswerAnswer 13. God just wanted to demonstrate how futile it was for us to try to save ourselves.
AnswerAnswer 14. God also chose Moses to lead his people even though Moses was the child of incest (his father had married his aunt: a sin according to the law God gave to Moses). So, despite our answer to question 11, it appears that God sometimes in the past did not punish children for their father’s sins (or their fathers either, for that matter). Go figure!
And if a man shall take his sister, his father’s daughter, or his mother’s daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister’s nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.
And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother’s sister, nor of thy father’s sister: for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity. And if a man shall lie with his uncle’s wife, he hath uncovered his uncle’s nakedness: they shall bear their sin; they shall die childless.
And if a man shall take his brother’s wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother’s nakedness; they shall be childless.
Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother.
And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
And Amram took him Jochebed his father’s sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses
AnswerAnswer 15. Yes, and/or no; depending upon when you ask and which way the wind is blowing over headquarters.
YES – Watchtower, 1/15/64, p. 63.
NO – Aid to Bible Understanding, 1969, p. 601; 1371.
YES – Awake!, 3/8/74, p. 14.
NO – Awake!, 7/8/80, p. 5, 6.
YES – Watchtower, 10/15/80, p. 7.
NO – Watchtower, 3/15/83, p. 30.
YES – Awake!, 2/22/84, p. 24.
NO – Awake!, 6/8/84, p. 28.
YES – Awake!, 5/22/86, p. 23.
NO – Awake!, 9/22/86, p. 28.
AnswerAnswer 16. The Society of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Yes. The international society of Jehovah’s Witnesses is living proof that hatred can be abolished… It is a foreglimpse of a worldwide program to eliminate hatred and its causes.
— Watchtower, 6/15/1995 p.8
AnswerAnswer 17. Anyone who has willingly left the organization.
Well, apostates are ‘mentally diseased’, and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings
— Watchtower, 7/15/2011
We must hate in the truest sense, which is to regard with extreme and active aversion, to consider as loathsome, odious, filthy, to detest. Surely any haters of God are not fit to live on this beautiful earth. What do you do with anything loathsome or repugnant that you detest and abhor? The answer is simple. You get away from it or remove it from your presence. You do not want to have anything at all to do with it. This must be exactly our attitude toward the haters of Jehovah.
— Watchtower 10/1/1952 p.599
…in order to hate what is bad a Christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked… Jesus did not mean for us to love the hardened enemies of Jehovah.
— Watchtower 7/15/1961 p.420)
You have seen the benefit of godly love, but do you know how to hate? …These very strong words are an expression of godly hate, and you too must have this quality to be pleasing to God. Hate causes a feeling of disgust to well up inside you. You loathe, abhor, despise the object of your hatred.
— Watchtower 7/15/1974 p.442)
AnswerAnswer 18. According to former Watchtower president Joseph Franklin Rutherford, this is the definition of a woman (Watchtower, 9/15/1941, p.287)
AnswerAnswer 19. Smoking cigars, drunkenness, adultery, apostasy…
AnswerAnswer 20. A series of conventions held by Jehovah’s Witnesses in the early part of the 20th century. These conventions (held in Cedar Point, Ohio and other such centers of world importance) were basically “book drives” in which Rutherford gave his followers pep-talks to encourage them to sell his books. (These books of Rutherford’s are no longer believed to be the truth by anyone.)
AnswerAnswer 21. Berta Peale. [The answer “Bonnie Boyd-Heath” must be considered incorrect, as this was his first mistress.]
AnswerAnswer 22. The practice of medicine.
We do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical procedure. Their whole so-called “science” grew out of Egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.
— The Golden Age, 8/5/1931, p.727
AnswerAnswer 23. Vaccines.
Avoid serum inoculations as they pollute the blood stream with their filthy pus.
— The Golden Age, 11/12/1929, p.107
Thinking people would rather have smallpox than vaccination, because the latter sows the seed of syphilis, cancers, escema, erysipelas, scrofula, consumption, even leprosy and many other loathsome affections. Hence the practice of vaccination is a crime, an outrage and a delusion.
–The Golden Age, 5/1/1929, p.502
[Vaccination is] a direct violation of the everlasting covenant God made with Noah after the flood…Vaccination has never saved a human life. It does not prevent smallpox.
— The Golden Age, 2/4/1931, p.293-294
[Note that we’ve since changed out minds on this, but offer no apology for misleading people into death from smallpox and persecution for their stand against vaccinations.]
AnswerAnswer 24. No. The “matter of personal conscience” is just something we tell the media. In reality we dish out our most extreme punishment for people using blood to save their lives.
The receiver of a blood transfusion must be cut off from God’s people by excommunication or disfellowshiping.
— Watchtower, 1/15/1961, p.64
AnswerAnswer 25. Because the Society says so. [Offer no further rationalization; the baptismal candidate must get used to arbitrary decisions from his Governing Body and accept them without question.]
That they [Jehovah’s Witness] must adhere absolutely to the decisions and scriptural understandings of the Society because God has given it this authority over his people.
— Watchtower, 5/1/1972, p.272
Avoid independent thinking…questioning the counsel that is provided by God’s visible organization.
— Watchtower, 1/15/1983 p.22
AnswerAnswer 26. Organ transplants.
…removing the organ and replacing it directly with an organ from another human… Those who submit to such operations are thus living off the flesh of another human. That is cannibalistic. However, in allowing man to eat animal flesh Jehovah God did not grant permission for humans to try to perpetuate their lives by cannibalistically taking into their bodies human flesh, whether chewed or in the form of whole organs or body parts taken from others.
— Watchtower, 11/15/1967, p.702
AnswerAnswer 27. Those who obeyed the Society’s mandate died. Those who disobeyed lived, but were disfellowshipped.
AnswerAnswer 28. That is not for us to judge. But probably not since they disobeyed God’s Organization on Earth. [Explain that even if the Governing Body is wrong about something, it is not up to any individual to act contrary to their guidance.]
AnswerAnswer 29. You’ve got to be kidding.
AnswerAnswer 30. They were recompensed with the knowledge that their loved ones died in service to Jehovah.
AnswerAnswer 31. A cult is a group that follows the leadership of a man or a group of men instead of following God’s leadership.
AnswerAnswer 32. The Society. [Other acceptable answers: The Governing Body; The Faithful and Discreet Slave; The Organization.]
AnswerAnswer 33. No, of course not!
AnswerAnswer 34. Because the Society says so.
AnswerAnswer 35. That it is permissible to break God’s law to save a life.
AnswerAnswer 36. “I must follow the leadership of the group of men known as the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses rather than this Bible principle, even if it means sacrificing my own life or that of my children.”
AnswerAnswer 37. [Point out that in the only place in the Bible where a siesta is mentioned it is only pagans who take them, and that someone was killed during the siesta. This is the same rationale for not celebrating birthdays.] The correct answer, once again is: “The Society tells me so.”
And the sons of Rimmon… proceeded to go and come to the house of Ishbosheth about when the day had heated up, as he was taking his noonday siesta… And here they came into the middle of the house as men fetching wheat, and they struck him in the abdomen. When they went into the house, he way lying upon his couch in his inner bedroom, and they struck him so that they put him to death, after which they removed his head
— 2 Sam. 4:5
AnswerAnswer 38. The United Nations.
AnswerAnswer 39. Destruction and death.
AnswerAnswer 40. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
AnswerAnswer 41. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
Such persons should remember that the Watchtower sets out the words of God’s prophet.
–Watchtower, 1936 p.182 par.18
God uses The Watchtower to communicate to his people; it does not consist of men’s opinions.
— Watchtower 1/1/1942, p.5
The twentieth-century preaching prophets of Jehovah are the ones who are running to and fro over the Bible to gain knowledge of the divine pronouncements which is on the increase.-Dan. 12:4.
— Watchtower 4/15/1952 p.253 “Aids for Understanding Prophecy”
As Jehovah revealed his truths by means of the first-century Christian congregation so he does today by means of the present-day Christian congregation. Through this agency he is having carried out prophesying on an intensified and unparalleled scale. All this activity is not an accident. Jehovah is the one behind all of it.
— Watchtower 6/15/1964 pp.365-6 “Jehovah, the God of Progressive Revelation”
People today can view the creative works. They have at hand the Bible, but it is little read or understood. So, does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come?
IDENTIFYING THE “PROPHET”
These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? … This “prophet” was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. … Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a “prophet” of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record.
— Watchtower 4/1/1972 p.197 “They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them”
The facts substantiate that the remnant of Christ’s anointed disciples have been doing that prophesying to all the nations…
— Holy Spirit — The Force Behind the Coming New Order! (1976) p.148
In behalf of such individuals who at heart seek God’s rule instead of man’s rule, the “prophet” whom Jehovah has raised up has been, not an individual man as in the case of Jeremiah, but a class. The members of this class are, like the prophet-priest Jeremiah, wholly dedicated to Jehovah God through Christ and, by the begettal of Jehovah’s holy spirit, they have been made part of “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession.”
— Watchtower 10/1/1982 p.27 “Be as Men Who Are Facing Har-Magedon Unafraid”
You will be interested to learn that God has on earth a people, all of whom are prophets, or witnesses for God. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah’s Witnesses.
— Awake! 6/8/1986 p.9 “Would That All Were Prophets!”
AnswerAnswer 42. Logically it would mean that we shouldn’t be trusted as to what we claim about the spiritual significance of 1914. But as this is a spiritual matter we shouldn’t use logic.
We may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old … 1925 shall mark the resurrection of the faithful worthies of old and the beginning of the reconstruction…
— Millions Now Living May Never Die, pp. 89, 90, 97
We have no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925.
— Watchtower 1922 p.147
The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914.
— Watchtower 9/1/22, page 262
AnswerAnswer 43. One whose prophecies fail to come true.
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
— Deut. 18:20-22 KJV
If he is a false prophet, his prophecy will fail to come to pass.
— Watchtower, 5/15/30
The difference between a true and a false prophet is that one is speaking the word of the Lord and the other is speaking his own dreams and guesses.
— Watchtower, 5/15/1930, p.45
Jehovah, the God of the true prophets, will put all false prophets to shame either by not fulfilling the false prediction of such self-assuming prophets or by having His own predictions fulfilled in a way opposite to that predicted by the false prophets.
— Paradise Restored to Mankind – by Thecoracy, p.47- WBTS 1972
(Answer missing along with questions 45-80. But if you’ve come this far you can answer this question yourself.)
9 thoughts on “The New and Improved 80 Questions!”
Truly a work of art. So sadly true. How many lives lost following the arbitrary laws of this cult!
Q 10 I had to check, not because I didn’t believe you but because I needed to prove to myself again what a complete doofus I had been for many years. The Insight book gives this explanation: Christ’s Cloak. The color of the cloak with which Jesus Christ was clothed on the day of his execution has caused some persons to argue that a discrepancy exists in the Bible record with reference to this garment. Matthew said that the soldiers “draped him with a scarlet cloak” (Mt 27:28), while Mark and John say that it was purple. (Mr 15:17; Joh 19:2) However, instead of being a discrepancy, such a variation in describing the garment’s color merely gives evidence of the individuality of the Gospel writers and the fact that they were not in collusion. Matthew described the cloak as it appeared to him, that is, according to his evaluation of color, and he emphasized the garment’s red hue. John and Mark subdued the red tint, calling it purple. “Purple” can be applied to any color having components of both blue and red. So, Mark and John agree with Matthew that the garment was red to some extent. Of course, background and light reflection could have given it different casts. A body of water varies in color at different times, depending upon the particular color of the sky and the reflection of light at a given time. So, when such factors are considered, it is seen that the Gospel writers were not in conflict in describing the color of the cloak that mocking Roman soldiers clothed Christ with on the last day of his human life.
I had always heard that you could prove black is white by argument, but I’d never seen anyone dishonest enough to actually attempt it until I started reading the WT publications. They “prove” that scarlet is purple here, but if you substitute these colors with “black” and “white” it works just as well. They are truly masters of the con game — oops, I mean “slaves”.
this was the best laugh I’ve had in a long time
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